Your Lifestyle Is Your Medicine
“Your Life Style Is Your Medicine” is a podcast that focuses on how a person's lifestyle can be the key to health and happiness. Routed in the principles of lifestyle medicine, Ed Paget, osteopath, and exercise scientist, interviews area-specific experts on how lifestyle impacts well-being, focusing on purpose, physical activity, nutrition, sleep, and stress, which could lead to a longer, happier life. Edward now runs immersive lifestyle medicine retreats, with the purpose of helping others take back control of their lives to live longer and healthier.
Your Lifestyle Is Your Medicine
Podcast Episode 58: How To Choose The Correct Supliments
Ever wondered if your daily stack is helping or just making expensive urine? We pull back the curtain on the supplement industry with health coach and product veteran James Garland to show how to spot real quality, avoid common traps, and build a smart, minimal routine you can trust. From supply chain fraud to pristine production, James explains what reputable brands actually do: rigorous raw-material testing, third-party verification, and radical transparency with accessible certificates of analysis.
We walk through the shopper’s blueprint for safer choices. Start with the “other ingredients” panel to catch hidden flow agents and colorants that serve machines, not your body. Learn why methylated forms of folate and B12 matter—especially if you have MTHFR variants—and how to read labels to confirm active forms instead of cheap substitutes. If you feel generally fine, a clean, methylated multivitamin can be a solid insurance policy. If you’re dealing with fatigue, brain fog, or stubborn symptoms, targeted testing helps you supplement with precision instead of guessing.
We also tackle the big picture: modern soils are depleted, diets skew processed, and daily stressors raise nutrient demand. That’s why basics like omega-3s, magnesium, and vitamin D often deliver outsize benefits when chosen well. James shares his personal stack, the thinking behind each pick, and candid criteria for the brands he trusts—no hype, just repeatable habits. By the end, you’ll know how to vet companies, interpret claims, and choose forms that your body can actually use.
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Welcome to the Your Lifestyle Is Your Medicine podcast, where we do deep dives into the topics of mind, body, and spirit. Through these conversations, you'll hear practical advice and effective strategies to improve your health and ultimately add health span to your lifespan. I'm Air Page, I'm an osteopath and exercise physiologist with a special interest in longevity. Today's guest is James Garland. He's a certified professional health coach with over 20 years' experience in the health and wellness industry. Now, James has worked across the supplement world from product development to consumer education, and he's seen firsthand what works, what doesn't, and what's just plain misleading. He's now part of the team at Pure Therapro. Now they're a company I really like the look of, and that's why I was happy to have him on the show. Now, if you've ever wondered whether your supplements are doing anything or if you're just buying expensive urine, this episode is for you. Because James is going to bring clarity to a very confusing space, and he's also going to give us practical advice on how to choose supplements that actually support your health. So, James, welcome to the show.
SPEAKER_00:And thanks for having me. Great to see you again.
SPEAKER_03:Hey, no problems. So, what I'm interested in is a little bit about how you got to be uh where you are today at Pure and a little bit of your journey to get there so people know who you are and why they should listen to you.
SPEAKER_00:Sure. So that's a that's a complicated story, and I'm not the most concise person, but I'll try to I'll try to take you through it quickly.
SPEAKER_03:I'll rein you in if I have to.
SPEAKER_00:Yeah, please do. Uh in my 20s, I was fit as a fiddle. I was running miles a day. I was, you know, having fun partying with friends and not eating an optimal diet. Uh, and I got West Nile virus. I got bit by a mosquito. I was in the middle of Minnesota, and it completely derailed my health. I had dark circles under my eyes, crushing fatigue, you know, really bad constipation, no energy. I couldn't work for several weeks. And that was the health crises. That was the impetus that put me on this path of looking, you know, looking for truth, looking for answers, looking for, you know, what is the optimal diet? Which nutrients do we need? Which supplements actually help us regain our health when we've lost it? And I was desperate for answers, desperate, you know, I emphasize that word because 23 years ago, you know, I guess 21 years ago, whatever it was, uh, there weren't a whole lot of answers. You know, there were very few, even though there were hundreds of books out on like the South Beach diet, the Atkins diet, there weren't necessarily readily readily available books on like how to regain your health after, you know, a crushing virus or Candida overgrowth or Lyme's disease. You know, uh, I don't I don't think there were a whole lot of avenues for people who had been through a health crisis to take to get answers and regain their health. So that that set me on the path, uh, you know, 20, 20 some years ago. And ever since then, you know, I started out working part-time, you know, minimum wage in a health food store, uh, worked my way up to managing a health food store, moved across the country to go manage health food stores, uh, became a clinical nutritionist, uh, you know, got certified by IIN in New York, um, took, started taking clients and, you know, we can't call them patients, but started taking clients and helping them regain their health using supplements and diet strategies. Uh, and then I got into working in a functional medicine clinic for a very famous doctor who's written a New York Times bestselling book. She was on Dr. Oz six, seven, eight times. Uh, and I worked with her in her clinic for years. I learned a lot from her. And I moved from her clinic into her supplement company. And I that's where I got into the marketing side, you know, becoming a copywriter and learning about, you know, how do we educate the populace on these products and on where they came from and how they work and what's in them and what's not in them. And I really learned the ropes there. I worked with her for five years and then I uh started with a new company here at Pure Therapro RX. I've been here for three and a half years and I, you know, I kind of cut that very short, so as not to not to ramble on. But yeah, I've I've seen, you know, in those eight and a half years in supplement companies and in the roughly 15 years before that, I've I've seen it all. Every fast, every diet, every supplement fad, I've seen things work, I've seen things fall on their face, slipped on a lot of banana peels myself, done every diet, uh, every modality you can think of. I've I've tried it, I've been there, I've witnessed it. Uh, and so I do feel like a bit of a, you know, a veteran in the space for better or worse.
SPEAKER_03:That certainly sounds like it. Now, I just want to clear something up right at the beginning of the show, and that you work for a supplement company. And some people might be listening to this and they might be saying, well, you know, Ed, he's gonna talk about supplements and he's gonna say this, that, and the other. But when we met prior to this and we did our sort of pre-podcast chat, I was really impressed with your integrity to say, well, yeah, you know, I am in the supplement industry, but not all supplements, you know, are the be-all and end all. And so I just wanted to clarify for my listeners that yes, James is working in the supplement industry, but I think he's gonna give us uh an unbiased opinion on supplements.
SPEAKER_00:I I yeah, I think I appreciate you bringing that up because that's very important to me. I consider myself a person of integrity, uh, extremely, you know, as transparent as I can possibly be. And yeah, you know, when you're when you're speaking to somebody who works for an organization, whether that organization is a supplement company, the FDA, you know, the some government branch or even a manufacturer, generally they're going to spin what they tell you. They're going to, you know, the advice they give you is going to be biased in favor of the industry that they work for, or the company they work for. Um, I try to avoid that uh as best as I can. And I know my founders, that's one of one of the reasons I work at the company I do, and that I don't go make a quarter million dollars a year selling insurance or something. But one of the one of the reasons I work here is because my that's so important to my founders is education, transparency, uh, purity. Like those those are the principles I try to live by. I try to have my family live by uh and they support me in that. So not to, you know, not to float their boats too much. But uh it's just one of the things I appreciate about working where I do. That said, you know, I don't think supplements are always the answer for everyone. I don't, I don't take every supplement we manufacture. Uh, I certainly don't think your listeners need to uh consider supplements the only source back to health. Sometimes taking a walk in the sun and getting your bare feet in the grass and maybe getting a chiropractic adjustment once a month is gonna be more effective than taking a supplement. Um, supplements can be amazing. We can talk more about them later. Don't don't don't get me started now, or I'll take up all our time talking about what they do and don't do. Um but yeah, you know, I believe that you can rely on me for uh an unbiased opinion on the supplement world, you know, and and supplements themselves, even though even the ones that we manufacture.
SPEAKER_03:Yeah, I I I speak to my friends, my colleagues in the medical industry. And sometimes when uh like I don't know that the doctor used to work for, but when a celebrity doctor brings up their own supplement line, it does feel like they're cashing in a little bit. However, on the other side, I've been there where once um I had access to a really good supplement that I really liked. It was a natural all-source, uh natural source of magnesium from crushed beetroot and so on. But that company stopped producing it. And so then I could see uh a gap in the market where I would be like, oh, okay, well, I like that product. I'm going to now make that product. And so I'd come out with my own supplement line because I want that quality, I want that, um, I want that um consistency for my clients. And to me, that is the right motion for or movement for getting into the supplement spaces. It's not just to cash in on it. Is that actually because you see a gap and you're like, oh, I can do this better, or I can offer a service that's no longer available.
SPEAKER_00:I completely agree, Ed. Um the two companies that I've invested eight and a half years with, the my previous company, uh, again, that was for a functional medicine physician. She did it for the right reasons. She did it because, okay, I, you know, I'm a functionally medicine-trained physician. I she was, she was a she was an ER uh physician. I don't want to butcher her background and say it wrong, but you know, worked in emergency rooms, trauma patients. Um, you know, she did boutique in-home medicine, she became a functional medicine practitioner, and she's practicing, you know, she's trying to get her patients better, but the supplement she needs either doesn't exist or it only exists in forms that, you know, she wouldn't take herself. So of course she wants to make it on her own. Um, so that's where she did it. And then the the company that I work for now, Pure Therapro, it's similar to what you said. Like there are all these practitioner-only lines out there. I don't want to say their names um so it doesn't sound like I'm disparaging other companies, but there's some really big um supplement brands that previously had only been available to practitioners. Like you have to go see a functional medicine practitioner, and then they have to say, okay, Ed, I want you to go to full script and buy this product, and here's my coconut. Now you have permission to go buy it. Well, my founders weren't necessarily okay with that model. They believed that everyone should be able to access those, you know, those formulas. Um, the other big thing is those formulas would often be filled with fillers: magnesium stearate, silicon dioxide, titanium dioxide, carnival wax. I could go on and on. Rice powder, you know, uh, it's not organic, it's often not tested for heavy metals. I could go on and on. But and so they thought, okay, these practitioner supplements exist, but they're gated. You know, it's only for these high-priced doctors to refer on full script. And they're also full of junk. So can, you know, can we do it better? And that was their impetus or motivation, you could say.
SPEAKER_03:Yeah. Well, let's start with that. Let's start about the good, the bad, and the ugly. Let's start with the ugly in the supplement industry. And you've already hit on that with the purity of the supplements you're getting. Uh, I believe there's been some research on that, uh, where a third party is testing certain supplements and finding some shocking results.
SPEAKER_00:Mm-hmm. Yeah. Wow, that's a that's a big can of worms. So you you've got it right. Um, to supplement industry like any industry, whether you're talking about automobiles or government contracts or pharmaceutical medicine, I think it's rife with issues. Sometimes those issues are adultery of products, sometimes it's outright fraud. Um, sometimes that fraud is on the part of the manufacturer, sometimes it's on the part of the people that sold the raw ingredients to the manufacturer. In my decades in this space, I have been all over the country, in you know, Canada, United States, Utah, Vancouver, all over the country. And I visited multiple supplement, uh, major, like hundred, hundred million dollar facilities where they're manufacturing supplements. And they're often doing, you know, the first thing they have to do when they get a palette of raw ingredients in is test it. And they have to sometimes put it through an entire barrage or a battery of tests because they're getting it from China or some maybe some country that doesn't have like the best quality standards, at least what you'd expect in America. And they have to do, you know, visual inspections, uh, they have to do gas chromatography. Sometimes they do DNA barcode testing. And the reason they're doing all of this is because it's so common for certain ingredients to be completely faked. Like you might order a thousand kilograms of what you think is creatine, and what you get might be flour mixed with baking soda and sugar, you know, like like you, you know, you're halfway to a cake there, um, but there's no creatine, there's no creatine in the bottle. And this is unfortunately much more common than you would believe. And when you're talking about a huge company like Jarro or Now Foods, they have the money and the labs and the legal, you know, like sort of SOP standard operating procedures to have the diligence and the time and the money to do these tests where they're testing every raw ingredient that comes in. Um, so generally, when you buy from a big company like that with like a big legal team, you're generally going to be protected at least from getting fake ingredients or no ingredients, right? Um, I want to say it's now foods, they release a newsletter every year. Um, it's mainly for industry professionals, but I'll give you a little anecdote that was really shocking to my founders and I. Now Foods bought 10 different products. They were all CoQ10, you know, CoQ10. Um, and they bought 10 different ones on a major online retailer. I'm not gonna, I'm not gonna say their name so I don't get in trouble, but I'm sure you can guess who it is. So they bought these 10 CoQ10 products and then they tested them using their laboratory equipment. Well, seven of them failed the test. I I could be, I don't want to butcher the study. Maybe it was six, but I believe it was seven failed the test. And they failed the test because they either contained far less than the labeled CoQ10 claim. Like if the label said 500 milligrams or 200 milligrams of CoQ10, they contained far less than that. And a few of them, I want to say two or three, actually had no CoQ10 present at all. And so that's what we're dealing with here. You know, like you've got a, based on that study, anyway, which is anecdotal, of course, you've got a three in 10 chance of buying a product that is both real and meets label claim. I I think that is an abysmal reputation um for the supplement industry. It's a it's a stain on our industry, it's a stain on supplements. Uh, I personally can't stand it, my founders can't stand it, but it's the truth. And so I don't know where you'd like to take this conversation there. I've got plenty more anecdotes just like that.
SPEAKER_03:Well, before we get to you know, a solution, because I believe there are some, I just want to ask you this. So I read an article a while back about uh like um luxury food, so caviar, um truffles, that kind of stuff. And the uh the basically the mafia have got involved, the mafia being a very collective term for organized crime, has got involved with somewhere along the transport line, watering things down, cutting things, and so on. Now, uh do you think the the the uh miscommunication between the company in the stateside, let's say, buying something from another country and not getting what it's ordered is just just fraud from those those uh distributing companies? Or is there something else in between, like people trying to muscle in on the supply chain?
SPEAKER_00:That's a great question. You know, I have seen studies and I I when I see these studies, I adapt my behavior pretty much instantly because my you know, my my health and my family's health, those are the most important thing in the world to me. Um and so when I see a study that says 80% of olive oil on supermarket shelves is either fake or adulterated, which is pretty interesting, Ed, because I I just gave you an anecdote where 70% of the cookie 10 supplements were fake or adulterated. Um, so if that's the, you know, if odds are that we're gonna buy something like olive oil, honey, coffee, um, caviar, you know, whatever, whatever ingredient we're talking about. And we've only got a 70, yeah, so sorry, a 20 to 30% chance of actually getting it right, of actually getting what we think we're paying for, that raises serious questions, like the like the one you just posed. And my opinion is that it's probably a little bit of both. And so I would say willful ignorance, um, being taken advantage of, fraud by third parties, it's it's often, in my experience, anyway, the person you're importing it from. So if you, if Ed, tomorrow you go to open up your own honey business, right? And you want to do everything right, you want to be certified organic, you want all of these bees to be gathering money, uh, sorry, gathering honey on money. Yeah, right in slip, you you want all of these bees to only gather honey from like untouched, pristine wildflowers on, let's say, regenerative agricultural land. Let's say those are your standards. And so you demand that your suppliers meet those standards. But unless you're out there investigating those fields and ensuring that their equipment isn't cross-contaminated and ensuring that they're not mixing your honey with corn syrup and simple syrup and things like that, how would you know if they're pulling a fast one on? You know, it takes it takes real diligence on your part, on the on the person who's putting his name on the product, his or her name. Uh, that's where the diligence has to come into play. And so I think if you don't do that diligence, do I think you're a fraudster? I don't. Um, but I also, you know, I don't think you're doing it right because you're clearly not aware that a big chunk of the world wants, you know, they want to separate a fool from his money, unfortunately.
SPEAKER_03:Yeah. So these these smaller retailers that sell on uh online and so on, maybe their heart's in the right place, but they're just not getting their uh raw materials from the right places, or there's you know, bad actors or whatever in the supply chains. What do we do about that? What do we look for in a in a company?
SPEAKER_00:So it's I think it's different for every industry. If you're in the honey industry, the avocado oil. So, you know, like you said, avocado oil, olive oil, caviar, suppl, pretty much every dietary supplement, creatine, fish oil, co-cutent, all of these things are prone to being faked, adulterated, contaminated. Uh I can tell you what we do, uh, and I can tell you, you know, what I've experienced at past companies. One of them is not doing businesses with known bad actors. Um, and unfortunately, sometimes that might be like an entire province or an entire country. Uh, I don't I don't want to, you know, badmouth an entire country. I would never do that. Like there, I think there's wonderful people all over the world. Um, and I wouldn't say just because we say don't buy raw ingredients from China, that you know, all of China is a bad country, that's crazy. Um, but yeah, sometimes it means not importing importing ingredients from certain countries because that country, um, their government simply does not have the rigidity in quality or standards that is required for an industry like ours. Um, so yeah, if you're if you're importing honey from China, unless you're there on site and you've got an employee there who's monitoring the filling of those bottles and where the filling came from, I think it would be very difficult to make the claim that it's 100% pure and organic, um, because you really don't know. Uh so we will insist on certificates of analysis that show, like, okay, here's what was input, here's where those materials came from. We insist that, you know, it's not from this country and it doesn't contain these fillers. So we have very strict, like, how do I want to say this for your listeners? Very strict contractual terms. And we also pay visits. You know, there are people on my team that will go to uh the manufacturing lab and just verify yes, even though we have a wonderful relationship with the lab, it's still the diligence is on us, the onus is on us, it's our name on the product. And so, yeah, we're gonna we're gonna send people there from time to time and do spot checks, investigate the facility, ask to see their paperwork, even though you know they've got it all online. We want to see it. Is it stamped? Is it sealed? Is it signed? Um, and that's really, I think that's really all you can do is speak to your community, you know, like if you're if you're a honey supplier, I, you know, a brand, I would hope that you're talking to other honey brands and finding out what banana peels they slipped on, who has tried to pull a fast one on them, uh, so you can avoid those pitfalls and therefore your customers can actually get the product they paid for and they received and they and that they believe will help their health.
SPEAKER_03:And what about from a customer point of view? Is there anything that that we can look for? Because I mean, when we buy a brand, we're hoping that the brand is doing all that stuff. But is there a way the brand can communicate that with third-party testing or something like that to us?
SPEAKER_00:Yeah, I think different brands do it in different ways. In our vertical, in the dietary supplement vertical, I think the most important thing is under you know, understanding who you're buying from. That's very difficult when you're on an online marketplace. So if if you're on Thrive Market or Amazon or Walmart.com, whatever it is, and you're and you're buying a bottle, sometimes it's a little difficult to ascertain like who is this company? You know, what are their core values? What is their mission statement? What do they stand for? Who who started this company? Is it is it owned by an international investment banking conglomeration? Is it owned by a married couple in Denver, Colorado? Uh you know, you know, you just never know unless you investigate. So I think the first thing as a consumer is you need to look at who the heck am I buying this product from? Like, do I trust them? If I'm gonna buy a used car, uh especially one for like, you know, my daughter when she turns 16, I want to know who owned that car, how did they drive it? You know, what cars have they sold before? Where's the carfax report? Uh so I'm gonna do my due diligence, right? Because that car is responsible for my daughter's safety to some degree. Uh, well, a supplement, you kind of you're you're putting part of the responsibility for your health on that supplement company, right? Like you know that you say need CoQ10 or omega-3s or magnesium to support your health optimally, and you're trusting the company you're buying from to provide you with that support. Um, so before you trust them, don't put it blindly. Like, look, investigate who they are. Who are they owned by? Reach out to them. Do they have a customer service, phone number or email? Will they answer you if you start asking questions about their products? How do they answer you? Are they happy to share like country of origin on their ingredients? Are they happy to share why they chose this form of a nutrient over another? Uh, so I would I would look to build that relationship and build that trust. The next thing is you want to look for some kind of paperwork, some kind of certification that what's in the product is actually what's in the product. Now, my company, we put certificates of analysis on every single image carousel. Doesn't matter if you find it on our Shopify store, if you find it on Amazon.com, you can find the paperwork from the lab that shows, okay, here's here's the test results, here's the ingredients, et cetera, et cetera. Other companies will post um third-party tests from big uh national laboratories like Eurofin's or uh NSF certified laboratories. There's only a few in the world that are in America that actually do that. But um, so yeah, look for COAs, certificates of analysis. Um, look for third-party testing. Uh, look for things that you, you know, look for red flags. Again, like I said, will they reply to you? Will they speak with you? Will they answer your questions? Uh, and just try to find out who they are. You know, sometimes it's tricky to tell on on the website alone because I'm a marketer, you know. Marketers tell stories. They wanna, they want you to feel good about the brand. They want, at the end of the day, they want you to buy their product. Uh, and many marketers, you know, I would say you have some unscrupulous players, will say whatever they have to to get you to buy the product, even if what they have to say is illegal. Uh, and that's that's another thing you'll want to watch out for. Is I think it would be too big for today's conversation, but there's like there's FDA law around how dietary supplements can be advertised. For instance, can you call omega-3s uh anti-inflammatory on your website? There are thousands of trials and published papers that say they're anti-inflammatory. Here's the clinical data that shows they are, but can we say that on our website? We the fact is we can't, because an anti-inflammatory is a class of drugs. It can also be uh construed as being able to treat an inflammatory disease like rheumatoid arthritis. So uh it is actually illegal to say that fish oil is anti-inflammatory. Um, and that's another thing I'd look for is is the brand that you're looking to forge a relationship, are they aware of these laws? Are they breaking the law in their in their product descriptions and on their labels? So uh I'm not sure that was the most concise answer. There's there's a lot of information to tackle there, but hopefully that's that's helpful.
SPEAKER_03:But I'm thinking about when I go to buy some like a multivitamin or you know, I take I supplement with creatine and and some magnesium. I generally don't go to the length that you've suggested I we should go to. I go to a uh usually a store that specializes in vitamins, so a health store. And I guess what I'm doing is I'm making the assumption that if it's in a health store, the health store has done some sort of due diligence, but perhaps they haven't. Perhaps I'm missing something there. So when I'm looking at a row of vitamins or a row of supplements, minerals, or whatever, what's a quick and easy thing I can look for? Like, am I looking for those labels on the actual packaging?
SPEAKER_00:Yeah. If you're in a health food store, my you know, my personal feeling is that the bottle you're about to buy, it's probably gonna be in your house for one to three months, maybe four, depending on how big that bottle is. And I do think if you're gonna take something every day for two, three, four months, that it is worth Googling, you know, just for just for two or three minutes, even if you're in a hurry, just check it out. If if you don't have time for that, let me let me speak to this two different ways. One, there are some health stores, you know, health food stores out there or supplement shops that will do the level of due diligence um required for you to just sort of blindly trust the product. Uh, it's not common. Uh I think natural grocery, I don't want to promote certain companies or brands. Uh, natural grocers here in the United States is a is a big one where I believe in their nutrition partner uh department. You know, I I worked for them for seven years. That was a long, I don't I haven't worked for them for eight years, but um, it's one of those stores where I believe that what they have on their shelf for the most part is tested, meets some very rigid standards. Whole Foods is another one, believe it or not, even though they're owned by Amazon. Um, they've got some really dedicated, like uh, how do I say this politely, like really driven people that are making sure like the paperwork checks out, but you know, all of your lab results are posted and submitted quarterly and so on. So if you're buying it off a shelf at Whole Foods or Natural Grocers, I would say you're probably in the clear as far as fake. That said, you know, a lot of times these olive oil and honey studies, they're going to Whole Foods and they're buying it. And eight out of 10 are fake. Because just because your paperwork is in order doesn't mean your supplier didn't pull a fast one on you. Um, so here's what I would do. I would Google it for two to three minutes. And if you can't do that, look at the label. You know, does the product have an FN SKU or a UPC code? That that helps add legitimacy. Um, look at the other ingredients section on the label. What's in there? You know, I've got I've got a bottle of kombucha here, but if I flip it around, I've got the nutrition facts and the ingredients. And on a on a bottle of supplements, if you're if you're looking at magnesium or vitamin C, whatever it is, um, there's gonna be a little section that says other ingredients under the supplement facts panel. It's legally required to be there. Even if there are no other ingredients, it still has to be there. It has to say other ingredients, none. If that's not there, well, then it's not FDA compliant. And if it is there, you're gonna be able to see what that product was manufactured with. And then this is where this is where I'm not gonna say I draw a hard line. I'll occasionally take a product with a filler if I have to. But if a company is using fillers or excipients or flow agents in their product, that's where it's gonna show up in the other ingredients section. And those are usually gonna be, like I said, magnesium stearate, silicon dioxide, um, titanium dioxide. You know, sometimes sometimes they use it just to color, like a soft gel. Like if you buy a soft gel from one of my favorite big brands. In fact, I mentioned them earlier in the call. I won't say them again so I don't disparage them. But if you buy their CoQ10 soft gels and you turn it around and look at other ingredients, it literally says titanium dioxide. That's a heavy metal. I think we all know heavy metals, especially the soft ones, are horrible for our lymphatic system, for our brain, soft tissue, etc. Like I think the whole world is aware that like aluminum, tin, mercury, too much copper, too much iron, uh, titanium, all of these things can be very problematic. But it's right there, it's in other ingredients. And they also include carnuba wax. That is completely indigestible. I mean, literally, in the 60s and 70s, that's what you waxed your car with. And so why is it in a coqui tent soft gel? The simple answer is they add it in there to make the gel cap feel better and look better. You know, it's not in there to help you be healthier, Ed. It's not in there to make the product more bioavailable or to make it work better. In fact, those ingredients are likely to make the product work worse because they're often binding or indigestible or inflammatory, right? Um, perhaps they interfere with stomach acid production or bile production, or they bind to the vitamin C or the magnesium and don't allow your body to absorb it. Um, so anytime I see ingredients like that in the other ingredients section, I take a pause. That tells me right away. This is this is where I risk sounding like a marketer and I apologize in advance. But that tells me right away. That the number one goal of half the ingredients in this bottle is to make it more economical for the manufacturer, right? They didn't put rice flour in there to make it healthy for you. They put rice flour in there to make the capsules look full. So it's all about appearance and value proposition. It's marketing. They didn't put silicon dioxide in your magnesium supplement so that it would work better for you. They put it in there so that the machines could produce it faster and with fewer cleanings.
SPEAKER_03:That's a flow agent. I was going to ask what a flow agent was. So that's simply, I thought it was something to do with the body. And I was like, what is a flow agent? A flow agent would be like something to get it down the pipes better.
SPEAKER_00:Bingo. Yeah. You've got these little tiny, you know, they want, they want to fill a thousand capsules every, I'm being hypothetical here, a thousand capsules every 30 second, 30 seconds. And the only way they can do that is if they include sand, silicate dioxide in the capsules. Um, I'm gonna, you know, I I think there are studies out there that show that that's not that good for you. You know, like heck, they used to put talc. I think you've probably heard of how Johnson Johnson is a big lawsuit related to talc and cancer. Um, you know, I've been in, I've been in this industry, I don't want to date myself, but I've been in this industry a long time. And I can't tell you how many products I've picked up and seen talc in the other ingredients. Now, I don't think they put it in there anymore because Johnson Johnson is going through this huge, like billion-dollar lawsuit. Um, but yeah, they'll they'll put anything in there: chalk, talc, silicon dioxide, magnesium stearate. Um, and these things are, yeah, it's basically what is the most inert and cheapest powder that we can find on the market and fill these capsules with to make them look full, look good, and flow through the machines faster. That doesn't like I take supplements for optimal health. Not, you know, not because I have to, not not because I think I should, but you know, to support optimal health. But those ingredients do not do that. And so I I apologize for the long-winded answer, but that's one of the that's one of the top things I would do as a consumer is I would look at the other ingredients section because I think that will tell you really quickly, you know, I hate to put it so simply in black and white, but does this company care about me and optimal health, or do they care about the economics of the product? I, you know, yeah, to me, that's a big tell.
SPEAKER_03:So interesting. I think magnesium stearate is candle wax, if I'm not mistaken.
SPEAKER_00:And you know, so magnesium stearate, its name comes from steer, uh, you know, which is cattle. And initially it was a byproduct of glue making. So they when when a cow was, sorry to speak so you know, hopefully you don't have sensitive uh listeners that are upset by this, but when a cow was slaughtered for its meat, they didn't want to waste any part of it. And so it's and horses too, their hooves were essentially cooked down into glue. Like back in the day, Elmer's glue was literally horse hooves and cow hooves that had been cooked down. And uh stearic acid was a byproduct of that. And so it's you know, it I don't know that it's all vegan today, but they have sort of synthesized it so that I think a lot of it is vegan and not necessarily from horse hooves. Um, but yeah, it's not it's not uh health promoting at all. In fact, there were studies that came out in the 70s. Some people say these studies are debunked. Um, I would question that. I think everybody should go make their own judgment, look them up. These days you can ask Grok or Chat GPT or something like that, like, hey, what do you think about the 1970s studies on health and steeric acid? And how does today's science reflect on that? Like, you know, go play with it. I encourage it. Uh, don't don't take it for, you know, like do your own research though. Don't let AI do all of your research for you because it is inherently, it's just a, you know, it's just a language model. It doesn't know the answers, it's just repeating information that it finds on websites that it's that it believes is relevant. Um, so don't don't trust it blindly. Be careful there. Uh, but yeah, you know, that that's steric acid. It it it came from cow hooves. Um, they needed a use for it. So they they sold it as a filler to food packing and supplement industries. And yeah, that's sort of been around for decades.
SPEAKER_03:Okay, so I was incorrect. It's not candle wax, it's something else.
SPEAKER_00:Yeah.
SPEAKER_03:Yeah. Interesting. I remember there's a there's a form of therapy called um reply kinesiology, and it's a little out there. And and when I was first introduced to it, I was like, okay, this is all this is all rubbish, but whatever. So I was actually the model in the class. And you stand up and you put your arm out straight, and the the the uh therapist presses on your arm and tests your muscle strength. And then he gave me a capsule with magnesium stereotype, and I put it on my tongue, and I literally couldn't hold up my arm against his pressure, you know, and I thought, oh, he's he's just pushing harder. But he's not, he wasn't, and he got someone else up to check as well, and we wasn't pushing harder. And then I took the capsule out, washed my mouth out, and I became strong again. And so since then, I've always like wondered, you know, should we be like if that if that if that applied kinesiology thing is true, i.e., your muscles go weak when you're uh in contact with some sort of toxin, then don't eat that stuff.
SPEAKER_00:Yeah, I yeah. So I'm well aware of applied kinesiology. I again I've been in this, I've been in this vertical working for over 20 years. And, you know, if you work in the vertical, oftentimes you're subscribing. You know, you're you're I go to chiropractors, I go to, you know, I've been to energy workers, I've done Reiki, you know, I saw and I've done things where I'm like, is this bogus? Is this really is this working? Uh I can't tell you how many thousands of dollars I've spent on everything from fasts to colonics to yeah, I your listeners probably don't want to hear everything I've done. But um, yeah, I've done kinesiology. Uh, and every time I do it, Ed, I learn a lot and I'm like, wow, that's really accurate. But at the same time, I'm like, are they just pushing harder? Is this real? There's no way, there's no way for me to know. Um, but I, you know, I know a lot of people believe in it. You know, they believe like the body has like energy networks that we can't necessarily see, but like your body picks up on what's in its mouth, and if it's sort of inhibiting the energy of your body, you're gonna it's gonna show up. Um, so yeah, I I do believe there's something to that.
SPEAKER_03:Interestingly, yeah, when I was first introduced to it, that was 20 plus years ago. And subsequently, I've I've actually trained in a variation of it, and even during the training, the the instructor would show something, and I'd be like, no way does that work. And then I would go up as the model, try to disprove it, and sure enough, it worked. And yeah, some of that stuff I have no idea. The the the mechanism, I don't even think the people who invented it understand how it works. I think it's beyond our understanding of the human body at the moment, which is why it's very easy for some people to say, oh, that's rubbish. There's no there's no evidence. But I think that I think there's something in it because I I actually use aspects of it in my own practice.
SPEAKER_00:I have a theory. I have a theory. I don't know if it's legit. I'll say it very quickly. You can edit this out if you want. So quantum physics has proven, you know, even just like wave, like radio wave and wavelength science has proven that like a wavelength of this frequency can completely cancel out a wavelength of this frequency. Um, so if you've ever taken a homeopathic remedy and you have any idea how homeopathic remedies are manufactured, if it worked for you, there's only two, there's only two explanations for that. One of them is placebo effect, right? Which they've disproven using placebo-controlled double blind studies. Like I can't tell you how many studies are out there that prove sort of unequivocally that homeopathics work, even if you don't know what you're taking or if you're taking a placebo. And if you rule out the placebo effect, if you know how homeopathics are manufactured, how there's only like one one millionth of one part. Like so if you take uh, for instance, Arnica Montana and you take it in a 30C, well, the dilution of that is so that it's like 99.999999% water. And that.00000001 might be a little bit of the Arnica Montana. And the idea is your body picks up on the energy of that. I would say the the frequency, right? Every every ingredient, every atom, every molecule has a frequency. And if that frequency helps your body or inhibits a virus or um amplifies a disease process or suppresses a disease process, it'll show up in you know, in muscle testing in your in your health. Uh anyway, that's my theory. I don't know if there's anything to it because I think it's just too complex for a science to study, but perhaps in 20 years it'll all we'll be able to prove this out.
SPEAKER_03:It is fascinating. I've got to share a story because we're on this now. It's a bit of a bit of a side story, but it's such a good story. So um year years ago, when so for those of you who don't know what I'm talking about, I'm talking, we're talking about homeopathy. And homeopathy is a system uh developed by a German uh doctor called Hanneman back in the um late 1790s, I think. And Hanneman just noticed that if someone was taking uh digitalis, which is actually uh um a form for uh sorry, a plant to do with heart problems, it will help the person if the person has a heart problem. However, if they take it and they don't have a heart problem, it will actually hurt them. And the same with most medicines. Uh, we we they would help if you've got the problem, but you shouldn't take them if you don't have the problem. Anyway, he thought, okay, uh, can we do this with um a microdose of the thing, whatever it is. So he ended up diluting down these dosages of the the poisons he would give things like arsenic and so on. But arsenic poisoning, he would dilute it right down into uh uh very, very safe dosages, and he played with this sort of balance until he found he could get uh results. Anyway, he was disbarred from uh Germany and he ended up in exile in Paris, but and he had a very, very strong practice in Paris. Uh so it turns out that one of my relatives uh years and years ago, he was he was quite well to do and he knew the king of England, uh, but he was sick. Actually, sorry, his son was sick, and uh he was chatting to the king and he said, My son's really sick. Um, I don't know what to do. And the king said, Look, don't worry, you gotta go see this guy in Paris. His name's Hanuman. This is King George's. He says, and the guy says, Well, my son is so sick, he will never make it. He says, Don't worry, we'll put him in my bed. So they put him in the king's bed and carried him to France. There's no word of a light. Carry this guy to France, goes to Hanuman in in Paris. Hanuman says, Uh so what have they said? The doctor said, They said, Oh, it's my lungs or something, I'm dying. He says, It's not your lungs, it's your liver. You'll be better in a you'll be better in a week. And sure enough, this guy was better in a week. Hannuman just treated him, sent him back, didn't need the babe to go home or anything, 100% cured. And so that little group of that at that time, the aristocratic families in the in the UK were influenced by the king, obviously, but they met Hanuman. And so, even to this day, the queen was def or this queen who sorry, Rich and passed away, the queen and and King Charles will still be promoting a homeopathy, even though the the medical world doesn't particularly like homeopathy, but that's the history of why they do it. And I think it's kind of cool that's connected to my family.
SPEAKER_00:Yeah, that is honestly, I I have a lot of conversations about health and wellness every every day, every week. That is one of the best stories I've ever heard. I can't tell you how. Like, I'm I'm tickled by that. And I'll tell you, yeah, Paris is uh it's been the homeopathic capital. I I didn't know why. That's why that must be that must be why, you know, like Boyron and a lot of the big companies, they're out of France. Yeah, uh, and it sounds like because they, you know, the the Germans kicked them out, perhaps.
SPEAKER_03:100%. And he resettled, he resettled to uh to Paris. Anyway, we need to get we need to get back on track with these supplements. So what what I'm trying to do here is basically educate my listeners to say, okay, if you're gonna take some supplements, this is what you're looking for to separate the good, the bad, the ugly. And I think what we've we've done there was we've given them some tools to uh stand in a in a healthy shop and at least have some idea of what they're getting into. But now I'd like to get to the next sort of step in the journey, which is who needs supplements?
SPEAKER_00:Sure.
SPEAKER_03:And maybe we can talk about this thing called uh the RDA.
SPEAKER_00:So who needs supplements? It's a it's a big one. I think you know, this is where you're asking a marketer, and you're also asking, I'm gonna go ahead and proclaim, I'm gonna proclaim myself to be a supplement geek, right? I'm a fan. Um, I know so much about them, and I know so much about health, I know so much about diet, soil quality, how our soil is depleted in nutrients, on that note, like it might shock your listeners to know this. And I'm gonna, I should have looked up this study before I had the call. I didn't know it was gonna come up. Um, but uh, you know, they've shown, like science has shown that if you test an orange grown today, like in the soil in Florida, it has X amount of vitamin A. And they have the same data when they tested an orange in the 30s and the 50s and the 60s. How much vitamin A did the orange have? And it's actually five, six, seven, eight times higher. You know, I think an orange in the in the 50s and 60s had eight times more vitamin A than an orange has now. And that is it, it, you know, that's a huge change. It's not like, oh, it's 10% lower. No, it's 800% lower. I mean, it's sorry, it was 800% higher, which is absolutely shocking. And that is true across the board. So boron, magnesium, manganese, vanadium, all of these essential minerals and vitamins are so much lower in our soil today than they used to be. Uh, and that is due to you know, pesticide use and monocropping and not rotating crops. And, you know, we just we just don't grow with traditional methods anymore. Um so when I when you ask me who needs supplements, I would argue that most of us do, because our diet is so lacking in vitamins and minerals and plant compounds. It's not just vitamins and minerals, you know, it's often things like phosphatidylcholine and uh antioxidant flavonoids from berry skins and grape skins and things like that, right? Um, we don't eat enough produce. And the produce we do eat isn't grown in optimal soil and it's covered in fungicides and pesticides and glyphosate. Um, so yeah, you know, the the diet today is not what it was 30, 40 years ago, and it's not even close to what it was a hundred years ago. So I'd say most people need supplements. Most people are walking around with a subclinical deficiency in something, and and Ed, it's usually in multiple things. Like if I if I just went up to strangers on the street in any big city or small city, and I said, hey, you know, would you submit to a blood test? Let's test your vitamin A, your vitamin D3, let's test your magnesium, your B12, your iron, and perhaps your omega-3s, uh, and maybe a few others. I'm willing to bet then less than 10% of people that I tested would actually be above the FDA's border, you know, like their deficiency line. I'm willing to bet that multiple people would have multiple deficiencies and that almost no one would have optimal levels of those nutrients. The reason I can make such a bold claim is as I said, our soil's depleted, our diet is poor, but the other thing that we're dealing with is a higher stress environment than humanity's ever had, right? Like you're getting stress from the lighting in your home. You're getting stress from the the rug you just bought on, you know, at a Home Depot. It's off-gassing into your into your air. Uh, you're getting stress from the Wi-Fi surrounding you. You're getting stress from work and family and children, the economy. You know, it's it's coming from every angle. Um, life used to be a lot slower. Some of us on this call are old enough to remember it being slower. Um, if you're 20 and 30 years old, perhaps you you don't remember it. But what I can tell you is it was, especially 100 years ago. Uh life was slower. There was more downtime, there was more quiet time, there were no radio frequencies and and uh blue light coming from TVs and and in, you know, sorry, um, LED lighting. And uh so yeah, we have we have a higher nutritional need, higher today than it's ever been because of all this stress. And yet our nutrition is lower than it's ever been because of our soil quality and because of, I guess what I'm gonna say is corporatized food. So when you ask me who needs supplements, I'm gonna I'm gonna go ahead and say almost everyone would feel better or perhaps live longer or have fewer complaints about their health if they were taking at least one supplement. So I I know that's a bold claim, and yes, it's coming from somebody who works for a supplement company, but I hope my passion and you know my the reasons I gave, I hope that sort of makes sense to everyone why I would say that.
SPEAKER_03:No, I I agree. It's like this is this sort of confluence of factors, right? That we we we can read in the newspapers about the poor soil management and and soil quality. I think everyone's on board with that. Some people would have seen those studies that suggest that the you know the spinach of the day is not as good as the spinach of of yesteryear. And then uh our diet, like you said, our diet has shifted, so we're not even eating that stuff, even if we want to, we're eating processed food in the first place, so we're not getting that the nutrients there, and then like you say, everything is uh is increased in stress, so we need more, we need more um of the correct nutrients into our systems. So, what's the average Joe to do then? They're let's say like they feel okay, maybe they're just tired because life is cut and down, but they've got no clinical reason for being tired. We're not gonna we're not gonna say that they're sick. Did they look at getting uh a multivitamin or should they test and be more specific? Like which which because I think there's two branches there. You've got the people who are like, you know what, I just want the insurance policy, and you've got the people like, well, I'm not gonna take that because that's just a waste of time. I need to be specific. Is there an avenue you you recommend?
SPEAKER_00:Yeah, I and I, you know, I'm willing to bet it's probably similar to the one that you would recommend. I think if you're the average Joe, and there's nothing wrong with that, and you feel okay, like you said, you don't have any major complaints, in that situation, yeah, I'd take a good methylated multivitamin. And if I was a woman, I might even consider a methylated prenatal if such a thing exists. And I say a prenatal because they simply have higher levels of key nutrients and and B vitamins. And as I said, most of us are subclinically deficient, if not clinically deficient in important vitamins and minerals. So if you feel good, yeah, I would just take a multivitamin. I there, you know, I'm you're talking to a supplement person. So I would also consider the diet. Like if you know that, okay, I eat fast food three times a week and I eat out of a box or a can several times a week. If that's your lifestyle, I won't chastise that, but I'd say you might need an additional supplement or two. Maybe you want to take an omega-3 if you never eat fish, like fresh fish. Uh, or if the fish you eat is, say, Atlantic or farm raised instead of wild cot. Maybe you want to take a magnesium supplement if you have a hard time falling asleep at night. Um that's what I would do for like the, you know, just the everyday listener. Uh, and there's no, you know, there's no shame in being an everyday person. Um if you're not feeling good, if you don't consider yourself the average Joe and feeling fine, I would consider testing in that situation. Um, if if the budget will allow for like visiting a functional medicine physician or even a good chiropractor or osteopath, uh, I would form a relationship with somebody who can guide you through that process and get you the testing you need and then give you advice on your test results. If you're like me, you might work with other people, but you also might do your own, you know, your own homework where you are ordering your own tests on like a lab, like I think Lab Corp or My Labs for Life, or you know, there I think there's a lot of companies out there.
SPEAKER_03:Yeah, I use one called Inside Tracker that tests 40 different things and gives you science-backed advice if you're low on something, and then also tells you if you're low on other things, that you got to go see your speech see a physician. It's pretty good.
SPEAKER_00:Yeah, you know, if you're if you're able, you have the time, you have a little extra budget, and you've got the you know, the the research and the know-how to do your own labs, I would advise that. You know, it's there's no sense in taking an iron supplement if your iron is already in the optimal range. Um, and when you're reading about supplements, all of them want to say, more energy, less brain fog, feel better. Well, if I'm low energy and I have brain fog and I and I don't feel good, or maybe my skin isn't glowing like it used to, I could read every product page on Amazon, on the internet, on my website, on someone else's website, and they all address that, right? And I think the simple reason for that is is if you are sub, if you're clinically or subclinically deficient in a nutrient, the first place it's going to show up is in your general vitality. Your skin, you know, glowing and maybe sagging or not glowing, uh, your energy levels and your sleep, like those are or and really your stress level. Those are the first things. So you could be low in vitamin D, you could be low in iron, you could have perfect magnesium, but be low in omega-3. And oftentimes the symptoms are of these deficiencies are very similar. So it's good to know which nutrients do I actually really need? You know, which ones am I clinically or subclinically deficient in, so I can supplement with those. Um, but yeah, I would like a multivitamin, a good methylated multivitamin is probably that's like, like you said, it's an insurance policy.
SPEAKER_03:Yeah, tell us about methylated. I don't quite understand that.
SPEAKER_00:Sure. If you've if you've listened to Joe Rogan or Gary Brecker, Chris Masterjohn, or any number of other um I guess what, big names out there, it's uh, it's uh it's a topic that's often brought up. So I'll give a crash course really quick. Ed, you're familiar with MTHFR. It's a yeah, it's a genetic snippet that a lot of Americans and probably I I average I I haven't seen global data, but I'm very familiar with um the data that's come out of America. You know, I think 23andMe really helped shine a spotlight on this, like a lot of these genes that are responsible for people feeling really yucky sometimes, like not being able to tolerate alcohol.
SPEAKER_03:That's what's what I take from that one.
SPEAKER_00:Yep. That's a big part of it. So the the short version is MTHFR is a snippet, it's a gene snippet in your genome, in your genetic code. And it's very common to have one or two mutations on that snippet. And if you have one or two mutations, your body isn't able to utilize non-methylated B vitamins effectively or efficiently. Okay. Um, and a non-methylated B vitamin would be unfortunately something like our government and the FDA and a lot of food manufacturers love to put in the food folic acid. And the problem with that, so we need folic, we need folic acid. Let me let me backtrack. We need folate. Okay. Folate is the usable form of folic acid. Folic acid is actually toxic. It's it's not, you know, until your body converts it into folate, it's actually technically toxic and it can build up and cause problems and make you feel terrible. Well, if you have MTHFR mutations, you can't effectively convert folic acid into folate. So you're gonna feel really bad for a couple of reasons here. Um, one of them is you don't have enough folate. So your energy, your ability to tolerate alcohol, your ability to detoxify, like, you know, your seasonal allergies, your sensitivity to perfumes, colognes, anything scented, your sensitivity to smoke, all of these things are gonna be likely higher if you have mutations at MTHFR. Um, you might think mutations, well, that can't be me. I'm not mutated. Um, but I will tell you that the estimates out there, you can, again, you can ask ChatGPT or Grok to aggregate the latest data here, but I want to say it's like 45% of American adults have or are likely to have a mutation at MTHFR. So it's not like one in a hundred, you know. I mean, it like statistically, one of us has the mutation. Like if there's two people in a room, one of them are likely to have a mutation at MTHFR. So the the short answer to your question is a methylated multi will not include folic acid or cyanocobalamin, which is a cyanide-based vitamin B12, because those two nutrients must be methylated by your liver and by the 5 MTHF enzyme before your body can use it. But if you've got MTHFR mutations, that's likely not happening. And depending on if you've got a homozygous or a heterozygous mutation, um, it may not be happening at all, in which case you probably don't feel very good. And perhaps you're listening to podcasts looking for an answer. So when I say a methylated multivitamin, the the most basic way to describe that is a multivitamin that includes real folate and real methylated vitamin B12. Okay. Any any multi that does not include real folate and real methylated B12 is not methylated. And for 45% of Americans, will actually make them feel worse.
SPEAKER_03:And do they say methylated on the on the bottle?
SPEAKER_00:Some will. Um, but it's interesting that you say, do they say it on the bottle? Because unfortunately, people can kind of say whatever they want on the bottle sometimes. Like it's not heavily regulated by the FDA. And um, you know, just because a bottle says methylated or methylated multivitamin, unfortunately, not every supplement company want, you know, they don't all care about empowering your health and educating you and helping you feel better. Oftentimes they just care about getting your money. And so what I would encourage you to do is turn the bottle around and look at those two nutrients on the supplement facts panel, the B12 and the folate, and ensure that it's actually methyl folate. You know, uh it that's often a trademark form like quatrifolic or magna folic. Um, there are different trademark forms, but it should say something like five methyl tetrahydrofolate. Um, or uh I don't want to butcher this, it's been a minute, but um like calcium folinate instead of just folic acid. Um, if it says folic acid as five methyl tetrahydrofolate, that's okay. But if it just says folic acid, I honestly I would put that bottle back and I I wouldn't I'd run away and I wouldn't look at it again. Um, same with the B12. It should say methylcobalamin or methylcobalamine, however you prefer to pronounce it, not cyanocobalamin. If you see cyanocobalamin or folic acid, I would put that product back. I absolutely would not use it. Even if you do not have an MTHFR mutation, I'm not sure why you would want to take a lower quality, potentially toxic ingredient that your liver has to basically convert to A, make it safe for you, and B, even be able to support your health. Yeah.
SPEAKER_03:Interesting. And does Pure Therapro Rx have a uh multivitamin?
SPEAKER_00:We yeah, we we do a methylated multivitamin. Yeah, and again, there there are several good methylated multivitamins out there. Ours is not the only one. If I was ever if I was going to pitch ours, it would be because I know the people that make it and they're wonderful people, and B, because we don't use any fillers. You know, there's no there's no ingredients from China, there's no magnesium sterate, no fillers, no excipients, no flow agents, no rice flour, like nothing is in there that shouldn't be, uh, if that makes sense. Like only what you actually want is in the capsule. And then the forms of those nutrients are the very best we can, you know, the very best we can buy from around the globe. Like if Japan. And you know, I'm this is hypothetical, but like if we want to include vitamin E in our multi, right? But not just any vitamin E. We want the very best form, the one that in clinical trials has been shown to perform the best. So if we have to get it from Japan and we have to pay this much for it, that's what we do. We don't just get the generic, cheap, untested, unproven forms. Like we never do that. And so that's, you know, again, if you ask, does Pure Tera do it? That's why I work here. It's why I take our products.
SPEAKER_03:Okay. So that's fascinating. We've built a case here to say that, you know, almost everybody should consider supplementation. We've got two avenues. We've got the the multi-bit or multivite, and then the testing and saying, well, you know, let's see what you're deficient in and maybe be more clinical in the application of the of the um uh uh of the nutrients. So I want to sort of round this out a little bit now and see if I can guess what you take for supplements.
SPEAKER_00:Yeah, we'll see how you do. Some of some of them I think are interesting. Um I take them for various reasons.
SPEAKER_03:Just say yes no and we'll come back to why. All right, ready? Do you take a multi-vite? I do omega or creatine.
SPEAKER_00:I do. I I don't take it as often as I should, um, but I do.
SPEAKER_03:Magnesium.
SPEAKER_00:I do.
SPEAKER_03:Vitamin D.
SPEAKER_00:I do.
SPEAKER_03:So that's five for five. Okay.
SPEAKER_00:I take a few others. I'll tell you what they are if you're interested. But yeah.
SPEAKER_03:Hang on, let me go. One more, one more uh uh B complex.
SPEAKER_00:You know, I should, but I don't. And I'll tell you why.
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SPEAKER_00:When I got West Nile, it made me very sensitive. Like I I went from being able to like hang out at a bar with people covered in clone and smoking cigarettes to like weeks later, I couldn't even be around it. And now I'm I bet some of your listeners will hear me and think, oh my gosh, that's me. I've never heard of anyone like me before. But if I take B vitamins now, even the best methylated forms, I get jittery. Like it's I can take our methyl multi because it's you know it's a lower amount. It's not like a concentrated B complex. But whereas I in my 20s, I used to take a B complex every day and they made me feel amazing. Like, especially if I went to the bar and had a few drinks with friends in my in my mid-20s. Um I just take a B complex before going to bed or the next morning, and I feel right as rain. I can't, I can't handle the heavy dose B vitamins anymore because of my sensitivity. Um, but most people, yes, I think a B complex would help them feel wonderful.
SPEAKER_03:Okay. I'm out of guesses now. So what else do you take?
SPEAKER_00:I take, you know, I'm I'm 43 now, and so I take a prostate formula. Um, like, you know, men in their 50s often have issues with prostate health. But the other wonderful thing about a prostate formula is it's often made with like sal palmetto and uh zinc and a few other ingredients that's really good for your hair. You know, you know, in your 40s, it starts to go gray on you a little bit and starts to thin out. A prostate formula actually helps, you know, I don't want to make any um discheve violating claims, but a prostate formula helps it not thin out and not turn gray as quickly. Sometimes it'll even turn gray hair back to your original color. Yeah, you go.
SPEAKER_03:A little late for me, maybe, but yeah, I do I do that.
SPEAKER_00:I take a uh I take a CoQ10 formula. I think that's like mitochondrial health is so fascinating and important. And you know, earlier we talked about stress from uh like blue light and radio frequency and Wi-Fi and all like traffic and pollutants. I think CoQ10 is just, in my opinion, nearly essential in today's modern world. Like a lot of the cognitive diseases that we're seeing these days is just a complete breakdown in mitochondria health and the mitochondria's ability to create energy, especially in the brain. And so, yeah, I'm I'm looking to support my health that way. Uh, what else do I take every day? I, you know, honestly, I think we we covered the basis. I also do a product called DIM3, um, which helps with estrogen metabolism. Again, I think that's important for women and men. Um, I think these days, with the amount of plastics and microplastics and estrogens in our food and in our dishes and in, you know, you go out to eat, they're cooking your food in a nonstick pan. That nonstick pan has chemicals in it that mimic estrogen in the body, xenoestrogens, we call them. And those xenoestrogens, they bind to actual estrogen receptors in your body. Um, I don't want to go off on a rabbit trail here, but it it ends up forcing your body to create or to produce even more estrogen, which of course, you know, causes weight gain and cancer and man boobs. And uh I could go on and on. But I so I take a dim three supplement just to help metabolize excess estrogen into healthy metabolites and then clear it from the body. Uh, but yeah, that that kind of covers me. I drink uh I drink a kombucha every day. Um, that's another thing I do for health. It's probably too much raw sugar, but um, it's a bit of a vice. I love a good, sweet, carbonated drink, but I don't drink, I don't do sodas.
SPEAKER_03:Wow. Okay. Well, thank you very much for sharing your personal supplements deck and also sharing all that knowledge on guiding my listeners to be able to select uh the multivitamins or even just select supplements with some degree of knowledge. So I think that was really, really valuable. Thank you very much.
SPEAKER_00:Absolutely. It's my pleasure to be here. Thank you, Ed.
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